Unions DO NOT HAVE "THE RIGHT" to disturb the peace and annoy people in their own homes. We have been harassed by YELLING from CLEAN Car Wash Campaign pickets for 11 months! (since Oct.2009). WE DEMAND the pickets STOP the shouting and march peacefully. Babies cannot nap, home workers cannot concentrate and earn a living, students cannot study, residents (a "captive audience") are FED UP with picket screaming heard inside their homes!

2010 in review

January 2, 2011 Leave a comment

The stats helper monkeys at WordPress.com mulled over how this blog did in 2010, and here’s a high level summary of its overall blog health:

Healthy blog!

The Blog-Health-o-Meter™ reads Fresher than ever.

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A Boeing 747-400 passenger jet can hold 416 passengers. This blog was viewed about 2,600 times in 2010. That’s about 6 full 747s.

In 2010, there were 55 new posts, growing the total archive of this blog to 56 posts. There were 24 pictures uploaded, taking up a total of 5mb. That’s about 2 pictures per month.

The busiest day of the year was March 4th with 133 views. The most popular post that day was Meet the union lawyer .

Where did they come from?

The top referring sites in 2010 were mail.yahoo, dailywebsearch.info, and mail.live.com.

Some visitors came searching, mostly for robertson car wash, robertson carwash, picketnoise.wordpress.com, picket noise, and lapd penal codes.

Attractions in 2010

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Captive audience, free speech and The Supreme Court

November 19, 2010 Leave a comment

Supreme Court decisions have permitted the government to prohibit objectionable speech when the audience is captive and cannot avoid the objectionable speech. See
(Frisby v. Schultz, 487 U. S. 474, 487 (1988).

There have been numerous court decisions invoking the captive audience doctrine to restrict spoken speech especially when the individual is viewed as a ‘captive in the home’.

If the speech is so loud that it invades the home, government can step in to protect those who are captive.

**This blog supports peaceful picketing and free speech. NO SHOUTING! NO Disturbing the Peace! Lower the Volume, PLEASE!!!***

City Meeting for Petitioners (Only)

November 11, 2010 Leave a comment

LAPD issued noise citations to pickets

November 10, 2010 Leave a comment

September 30, 2010 – The Los Angeles Police Department issued noise citations (LAMC 116.01) to union pickets who have yelled at The Robertson Car Wash for 11 months, disturbing the peace and tranquility of a large area of the residential community.

LAPD issued noise citations to pickets

Sept. 30, 2010: LAPD issued noise citations to pickets of Clean Car Wash Campaign

**This blog supports peaceful picketing and free speech. NO SHOUTING! NO Disturbing the Peace! Lower the Volume, PLEASE!!!***

SORO Neighborhood Council Letter to Carmen Trutanich

November 9, 2010 Leave a comment


SORO Neighborhood Council Letter to Carmen Trutanich

SORO Neighborhood Council Letter to Carmen Trutanich

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Carmen Trutanich
Los Angeles City Attorney’s Office
200 North Main Street 8th Floor
Los Angeles, Ca. 90012

27 September 2010

Re: Picketing noise abatement at the Robertson Car Wash

Dear Mr. Trutanich:

I am writing on behalf of the South Robertson Neighborhoods Council (“SORO NC”)
and the residents surrounding the Robertson Car Wash at 2460 S. Robertson Blvd.
SORO NC represents the 45,000 residents and businesses in our area, and as you
know, it is our charter to voice their interests and concerns within the larger City of
Los Angeles government.

The Robertson Car Wash has been the focus of intense union organizing efforts for
the past 11 months. During that period, nearby residents have consistently reported
excessive noise and harassment from picketers. The noise, they say, has been
beyond disruptive to their quality of life, and extensively documented both on their
website (https://picketnoise.wordpress.com/) and in numerous calls, meetings and
correspondence with West LAPD, the City Attorney’s office, labor lawyers, and City
Council representatives.

While use of bullhorns by the picketers has been reduced, the problem remains. On
September 10, 2010 residents delivered a petition to City leaders and LAPD asking
for additional help and—specifically—the enforcement of LAMC 116.01 prohibiting
“loud, unnesessary and unusual noise” that “disturbs the peace or quiet of any
neighborhood or which causes discomfort or annoyance to any reasonable person of
normal sensitiveness residing in the area.”

At our September 16, 2010 Board meeting, after extensive discussion with
neighbors, West LAPD officers and LAPD labor relations officers, SORO NC voted to
write to you on behalf of our residents for a clear, written explanation as to why this
ordinance is not being enforced. Our LAPD partners tell us that they take their cues
from the City Attorney’s office, and so we ask for a comprehensive explanation for
why these officers are not being empowered to enforce this specific city ordinance.
Our next public meeting is on October 21st and we request your written response
before this date.

While recognizing the right to organize (and expressing no opinion on the arguments
pro and con for doing so at this location), the City must protect the rights of the
residents to live without undue and excessive noise.

Please do not hesitate to contact me if you have any questions.


Doug Fitzsimmons
President, South Robertson Neighborhoods Council

cc: Councilmember Herb Wesson
Councilmember Paul Koretz
Chief Charlie Beck

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Support LAPD

October 1, 2010 Leave a comment

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Residents Rights Abused by the Clean Carwash Campaign

September 1, 2010 Leave a comment

(Update to this post on Sept. 14, 2010 – Read our Letter to L.A. City Officials)

For 11 months the basic rights of residents to peace and tranquility INSIDE their homes has been abused by the Clean Carwash Campaign (Carwash Workers Organizing Committee of the AFL-CIO/United Steelworkers aka CWOC – USW). Residents have continually made it clear that the pickets at the Robertson Car Wash are TOO LOUD, and they are violating our most basic rights to peace and quiet.

The City of Los Angeles is currently NOT protecting residents rights to quiet either. We desperately need the LAPD to uphold noise enforcement to help residents from this horrific audible assault and psychological harassment. The Clean Carwash Campaign organizers and its union lawyers have not brought their pickets noise under control, despite our begging that they do so.

Their picketing is a form of speech that, by virtue of its LOUD VOLUME, repetition of message and hostile presentation, is disruptive of our residential environment irrespective of their message.

The picketing that is at the Robertson Car Wash is (in our opinion) intended to do more than convey a message of opposition to this business. As both “captive” witnesses and victims, we believe their unusually loud noise is intended to cause substantial psychological distress and intimidation to the car wash (owner, workers, and customers) as well as to residents in the surrounding neighborhood. We have dozens of videos that have recorded the hostility, volume and intrusiveness of the same message with each repeated assertion. As is often the function of picketing, during the periods of protest the Car Wash and residents are held under a virtual siege.

Picketing for the purpose of imposing psychological harm to listeners is NOT constitutionally protected. Their picketing is not friendly, and it certainly is not innocuous. It is an assault on us residents which unreasonably and with great burden interferes with our daily lives and the privacy of our homes, and does NOT serve a reasonable communicative purpose.

Many residents have not only suffered with the noise (by way of stress, anxiety, lack of sleep, constant state of agitation) — we have been working long hours FOR NO PAY to try to get that which we have ALREADY PAID FOR in taxes, namely, “noise enforcement”. We are fighting for our rights and for the quality of our home lives. The City of Los Angeles and the AFL-CIO should not force us to endure this any longer. It is too much to ask of us. Many of our residents ARE members of various unions, by the way, and they, too, are suffering with the picket shouting inside their homes and they want it to stop.

Residents are a “captive audience” to picket YELLING. Our choice to hear their speech cannot be made freely. Therefore, the burden is 100% unreasonable. The greatest justification for regulating expression based on the “captive audience” doctrine is when the speech is highly intrusive on the right to choose not to listen and the burden of avoiding the speech is extreme.

FREE SPEECH IS NOT permissible in all places and at all times. The home is certainly of the highest order in a free and civilized society. There simply is no right to force speech into the home of an unwilling listener. It does not matter where pickets are standing when they are yelling. If their speech is loud enough to be heard inside our homes, it is too loud!

**This blog supports peaceful picketing and free speech. NO SHOUTING! NO Disturbing the Peace! Lower the Volume, PLEASE!!!***